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<title>Reply to his query about the permissible level of wastage in melting</title>
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<note type="metadataLine">28 January 1713, <hi rend="italic">c.</hi> 722 words.</note>

<note n="recipient"><persName key="nameid_97" sort="Scott, Hercules" ref="nameid_97" xml:base="http://www.newtonproject.sussex.ac.uk/catalogue/xml/persNames.xml">Hercules Scott</persName></note>
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<p>Printed in <hi rend="italic">NC</hi>, 4: 536-7, where it is dated April/May 1709 and described as probably to Allardes, and again (without any comment or cross-reference) in <hi rend="italic">NC</hi>, 5: 371-3 as 28 January 1713 and to Scott. The latter is clearly correct, as appears from Scott's reply [<ref target="/catalogue/record/MINT00453">MINT00453</ref> (Mint 19/1/188)], which supplies the date of this letter. Rough draft in Cambridge University Library Additional Ms. 3965(12), f.362r.</p>
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<p>Wastage in copper is higher in Scotland than England due to the fiercer heat of the coal furnaces. For this reason, the Scots were allowed to resume their old practice of adding copper during melting, though no such allowance is made in England [see notes to <ref target="/catalogue/record/MINT00387">MINT00387</ref> (Mint 19/1/183)]. Consequently, the waste in Scotland should be proportionately diminished in other respects.</p>
<p>On reverse: Newton's sketch of a microscope.</p>
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<change when="2016-08-20">Transcribed by <name>Will Scott</name></change>
<change when="2016-09-18"><name>Will Scott</name> finished transcription</change>
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<p xml:id="par1">I have been long indebted to you for your Letters &amp; <lb xml:id="l1"/>was in good hopes that the Question you wrote to me <lb xml:id="l2"/>about would have been de<del type="over">i</del><add place="over" indicator="no">c</add>ided without me. But understand<lb xml:id="l3"/>ing that it is still<add place="inline" indicator="no"><unclear reason="hand" cert="low">our</unclear></add> depending, I <del type="strikethrough">will tell</del><add place="supralinear" indicator="no">here send</add> you my thoughts about it.</p>
    
    <p xml:id="par2">I <del type="strikethrough"><unclear reason="del" cert="low">did</unclear></del> imploy a Melter to melt all the gold &amp; silver coyned <lb xml:id="l4"/>&amp; allow him thirteen pence per pound weight  <del type="strikethrough">for <unclear reason="del" cert="low">melting</unclear></del><add place="supralinear" indicator="yes">Troy for melting</add> the <lb xml:id="l5"/>gold: whereof I reccon at least 3<hi rend="superscript">d</hi> for potts &amp; fire, &amp; the other 10<hi rend="superscript">d</hi> for <lb xml:id="l6"/>wast &amp; charges of making up the sweep. Whence the wast doth not <lb xml:id="l7"/>amount to five grains in the pound of gold. And the wast in <lb xml:id="l8"/>silver cannot be much more.</p>
    
<p xml:id="par3">Because I do not make up the sweep my self I <del type="strikethrough">have no <unclear reason="del" cert="medium">ex</unclear></del> <lb xml:id="l9"/>cannot speak of this matter by my own experience. But consulting <lb xml:id="l10"/>my Melter about it, he told me that the wast in melting was <lb xml:id="l11"/>about 6<hi rend="superscript"><del type="cancelled"><unclear reason="del" cert="high">g<hi rend="superscript">r</hi></unclear></del></hi> grains per pound weight of silver, <del type="over">t</del><add place="over" indicator="no">b</add>ut in refining it was <lb xml:id="l12"/>about double to that in melting. And afterwards he told me that in <lb xml:id="l13"/>one parcel he had found the wast in melting amount to 14 grains <lb xml:id="l14"/>per pound weight. But th<del type="over">e</del><add place="over" indicator="no">is</add> <del type="strikethrough">Gold</del> I suspect was by some accident, <del type="strikethrough">or <lb xml:id="l15"/>falshood in</del> <del type="strikethrough">his servants</del> For the Goldsmiths reccon the wast so little <lb xml:id="l16"/>that they have perswaded the Crown to make no allowance for it in <lb xml:id="l17"/>making the money <add place="supralinear" indicator="yes">in our Mint</add>, whereas in your Mint the Master is allowed to <lb xml:id="l18"/>put <del type="strikethrough">a half penny we</del> twelve grains of Copper into every pound <del type="cancelled">of</del> <lb xml:id="l19"/>weight of silver when the silver is molten &amp; they are pouring it off <lb xml:id="l20"/>into the moulds, <add place="supralinear" indicator="yes">&amp; this is done</add> to make amends for the <add place="supralinear" indicator="yes">wast of the</add> copper <choice><abbr>w<hi rend="superscript">ch</hi></abbr><expan>which</expan></choice> fumes away <lb xml:id="l21"/>in the <del type="cancelled"><gap reason="illgblDel" unit="chars" extent="1"/></del> melting, <del type="strikethrough">&amp; by fuming away increases the wast</del></p>
    
    <p xml:id="par4"><del type="cancelled"><gap reason="illgblDel" unit="chars" extent="3"/></del>In the year <del type="cancelled"><unclear reason="del" cert="low">the</unclear></del> 1707 when <del type="strikethrough">the copper was</del> the money <lb xml:id="l22"/>current in Scotland was to be recoined, <del type="cancelled"><gap reason="illgblDel" unit="chars" extent="1"/></del> we <del type="strikethrough">obje</del> wrote to the Officers <lb xml:id="l23"/>of your Mint that we were not allowed to put any copper into the <lb xml:id="l24"/>pot for making recompence for the wast of copper <del type="cancelled"><gap reason="illgblDel" unit="chars" extent="1"/></del> <choice><abbr>w<hi rend="superscript">ch</hi></abbr><expan>which</expan></choice> fumed <lb xml:id="l25"/>away in the melting, &amp; that they were to conform themselves to <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> <lb xml:id="l26"/>practise of our mint. But they replied that by the <add place="supralinear" indicator="no">flaming</add> coales <choice><abbr>w<hi rend="superscript">ch</hi></abbr><expan>which</expan></choice> they used <lb xml:id="l27"/>in melting, a greater wast was caused then in our Mint, <del type="cancelled">&amp; <gap reason="illgblDel" unit="words" extent="1"/></del> <lb xml:id="l28"/>so that unless they were still allowed to put <add place="inline" indicator="no">the</add> 12 grains of copper into <lb xml:id="l29"/>the pot, they could not coin the money standard. Whereupon this <lb xml:id="l30"/>allowance was connived at.</p>
    
<p xml:id="par5">How much the copper fumes away in your meltings by the <lb xml:id="l31"/>flaming of the coals I do not <del type="over"><gap reason="over" unit="chars" extent="1"/></del><add place="over" indicator="no">k</add>now: but I reccon that when the <lb xml:id="l32"/>allowance of 12 grains per pound weight was instituted, it was deemed <lb xml:id="l33"/>a sufficient recompence for the wast <add place="supralinear" indicator="yes">made</add> by fuming away: whereas in our <lb xml:id="l34"/>Mint <add place="supralinear" indicator="yes">as I said</add> we have no <del type="cancelled"><unclear reason="del">rec</unclear></del> allowance made for <add place="supralinear" indicator="yes">recompencing</add> that wast. And thence I <lb xml:id="l35"/>gather than the wast in your Mint after making up the sweep <lb xml:id="l36"/>ought to be less <add place="supralinear" indicator="yes">by some grains</add> then the wast in our Mint <del type="strikethrough">by some grains</del><del type="cancelled"><gap reason="illgblDel" unit="chars" extent="1"/></del>: &amp; <lb xml:id="l37"/>that the wast upon the whole coinage (if the sweep be well made <lb xml:id="l38"/>up) <del type="strikethrough">may not</del><add place="supralinear" indicator="yes">must be under 234 pounds weight &amp; may be so little as not to</add> exceed 125 pounds weight</p>
    
    <p xml:id="par6">For whilst 12 grains of copper are added to every pound weight <lb xml:id="l39"/>of silver in every melting &amp; a pound weight of silver makes but about <lb xml:id="l40"/>half a pound weight of money: there are about 24 grains of copper <lb xml:id="l41"/><fw type="pag" place="marginLeft" hand="#unknown">181</fw>added to <del type="strikethrough"><choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> silver in the coinage of ever</del> every pound <del type="over">p</del><add place="over" indicator="no">w</add>eight of money <lb xml:id="l42"/><del type="cancelled"><gap reason="illgblDel" unit="chars" extent="1"/></del> coined. And this addition diminishes the <add place="supralinear" indicator="yes">whole</add> wast, &amp; should make it 24 <lb xml:id="l43"/>grains per pound weight less in your mint then in ours, <del type="strikethrough">unless the</del><add place="supralinear" indicator="no">supposing the</add> coals <fw type="catch" place="bottomRight"><del type="strikethrough">used</del><add place="supralinear" indicator="no">wast</add></fw><pb xml:id="p181v" n="181v"/><del type="strikethrough">in your mint cause a greater wast then in ours. I am</del><add place="supralinear" indicator="no"><del type="strikethrough">in both mints</del> by the fuming away of the metal <gap reason="copy" unit="words" extent="2"/> alike in both mints *<addSpan spanTo="#addend181v-01" place="lower" startDescription="lower down the page" endDescription="f 181v" resp="#mjh"/>*I mean that <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> 24 grains <lb xml:id="l44"/>are more then enough to make <lb xml:id="l45"/>good all your wast.<anchor xml:id="addend181v-01"/></add> And the wast <lb xml:id="l46"/>by the flaming coals <del type="strikethrough">must</del> be <add place="supralinear" indicator="yes">in your Mint should</add> 24 grains per pound weight more then <lb xml:id="l47"/>in ours<hi rend="superscript"><del type="cancelled"><gap reason="illgblDel" unit="chars" extent="2"/></del></hi> to make the <del type="strikethrough">wasted</del> whole wast which remains after making <lb xml:id="l48"/>up the sweep, equal in both Mints. I am</p>
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<p rend="indent20" xml:id="par8"><hi rend="large"><choice><abbr>Yo<hi rend="superscript">r</hi></abbr><expan>Your</expan></choice> very humble servant</hi></p>
    <p rend="indent25" xml:id="par9"><hi rend="large">Is. Newton.</hi></p>





  
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