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The Examinaction of Thomas Carter Prisoner in
Newgate 31 IJanuary 169
He saith that abot.about the midle of last summer Wm.William Chaloner now prisoner in Newgate being in his Lodgings at the Golden Lyon in Great Wild street in Covent Garden did bring out of his Clossett 2 pieces of white earth like Tobacco pipe Clay of the consistence of Dough or past moulded togeather with a shilling between ym.them and putting them assunder he took out the shilling and laid the pieces of earth to dry by a fire and as they dryed he laid ymthem closer and closer to the fire and at last upon the fire to dry and bake them throughlythoroughly and after they were could they rung like burnt earthen Ware and then taking three shillings of the Deponent he meltdmelted them down with some pewter and spelter in an Iron Ladle and cast abot.about a score shillings in the earthen mould made as is above mectioned he cast but one at a time and as often as he cast a bad one he threw it back into the Iron Ladle and so continued to cast till he had cast abot.about 10 wch.which he liked then he offered them to the Depont.Deponent to get some body to put them off but the Depont.Deponent declined to receive them being affraid to have them abot.about him but about a week after sent Mary Ball to him for them and the said Mary Ball brought half a dozdozen of them to the Depont.Deponent and told the Depont.Deponent that the said Chaloner upon delivering them bid her tell the Deponent that if he did not like them he would do some better
The Deponent saith also that the last summer when the said Chaloner was graving a playe for Malt Tickets he the said Chaloner told the Deponent that he the said Chaloner and one Abbot had the day before been making Spanish pistoles and Dutch money for a CaptCaptain of a ship and that the Deponent saw the said Abbbott and Chaloner sometime before the making of the shill.sshillings as above sdsaid work 5 or 6 hours togeather in trying to find out a mixture of pewter zingzinc TuthenegTutenag and other Metals which would look and ring like silver
The Examt.Examinant saith also that the said Chaloner since his comeing to Newgate hath much sollicited the Depont.Deponent to joyn with him representing that if they joyned they should save themselves and fun em all of this there are sufficient witnesses
Hee saith also that the said Chaloner told him that Price who was executed for Counterfeiting an ExcheExchequer bill had of him the said Chaloner the Receipt of the water for wiping out the writing in any bill
Tho Carter
Capt die et anno preedict Coram Is Newton