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<head rend="center" xml:id="hd1">Mr. <hi rend="smallCaps">Leibnitz's</hi> <hi rend="italic">Third Paper</hi>. <lb type="intentional" xml:id="l1"/><hi rend="smallCaps">being</hi> <lb type="intentional" xml:id="l2"/><hi rend="italic">An Answer to Dr</hi>. <hi rend="smallCaps">Clarke</hi>'<hi rend="italic">s Second Reply</hi>.</head>
<p xml:id="par1">1. ACcording to the usual way of Speaking, <hi rend="italic">Mathematical</hi> Principles concern only <hi rend="italic">mere Mathematicks</hi>, viz. Numbers, Figures, Arithmetick, Geometry. But <hi rend="italic">Metaphysical</hi> Principles concern <hi rend="italic">more general Notions</hi>, such as are Cause and Effect.</p>
<p xml:id="par2">2. The Author grants me this important <hi rend="italic">Principle</hi>; that <hi rend="italic">Nothing happens without a sufficient reason, why it should be So, rather than otherwise</hi>. But he grants it only in <hi rend="italic">Words</hi>, and <hi rend="italic">in reality</hi> denies it. Which shows that he does not fully perceive the Strength of it. And therefore he makes use of an Instance, which exactly falls in with one of my Demonstrations against <hi rend="italic">real absolute Space</hi>, which is an <hi rend="italic">Idol</hi> of some Modern <hi rend="italic">Englishmen</hi>. I call it an <hi rend="italic">Idol</hi>, not in a Theological Sense, but in a Philo<lb type="hyphenated" xml:id="l3"/><fw type="catch" place="bottomRight">sophical</fw><pb xml:id="p57" n="57"/>sophical one; As Chancellor <hi rend="italic">Bacon</hi> says, that there are <hi rend="italic">Idola Tribûs</hi>, <hi rend="italic">Idola Specûs</hi>.</p>
<p xml:id="par3">3. These Gentlemen maintain therefore, that <hi rend="italic">Space</hi> is a <hi rend="italic">real absolute Being</hi>. But this involves them in great Difficulties; For such a <hi rend="italic">Being</hi> must <choice><sic>needs</sic><corr>need</corr></choice> be <hi rend="italic">Eternal</hi> and <hi rend="italic">Infinite</hi>. Hence Some have believed it to be <hi rend="italic">God himself</hi>, or, one of his Attributes, his <hi rend="italic">Immensity</hi>. But since Space consists of <hi rend="italic">Parts</hi>, it is not a thing which can belong to God.</p>
<p xml:id="par4">4. As for my Own Opinion, I have said more than once, that I hold <hi rend="italic">Space</hi> to be something <hi rend="italic">merely relative</hi>, as <hi rend="italic">Time</hi> is; that I hold it to be an <hi rend="italic">Order of Coexistences</hi>, as <hi rend="italic">Time</hi> is an <hi rend="italic">Order of Successions</hi>. For <hi rend="italic">Space</hi> denotes, in Terms of Possibility, <hi rend="italic">an Order</hi> of Things which exist at the same time, considered as existing <hi rend="italic">together</hi>; without enquiring into their Manner of Existing. And when many Things are seen <hi rend="italic">together</hi>, one perceives <hi rend="italic">That Order of Things among themselves</hi>.</p>
<p xml:id="par5">5. I have many Demonstrations, to confute the Fancy of Those who take <hi rend="italic">Space</hi> to be a <hi rend="italic">Substance</hi>, or at least an absolute <hi rend="italic">Being</hi>. But I shall only use, at the present, one Demonstration, which the Author here gives me Occasion to insist upon. I say then, that if <hi rend="italic">Space</hi> was an absolute <hi rend="italic">Being</hi>, there would Something happen, for <fw type="catch" place="bottomRight">which</fw><pb xml:id="p59" n="59"/>which it <note n="*" place="marginRight">See Appendix, N<hi rend="superscript">o</hi>. 4.</note> would be impossible there should be a <hi rend="italic">sufficient Reason</hi>. Which is against my Axiom. And I prove it thus. <hi rend="italic">Space</hi> is Something absolutely <hi rend="italic">Uniform</hi>; and, without the Things placed in it, <hi rend="italic">One Point</hi> of Space does not absolutely differ in any respect whatsoever from <hi rend="italic">Another Point</hi> of Space. Now from hence it follows, (supposing Space to be Something in it self, besides the <hi rend="italic">Order of Bodies among themselves</hi>,) that 'tis impossible there should be a <hi rend="italic">Reason</hi>, why God, preserving the same Situations of Bodies among themselves, should have placed them in Space after <hi rend="italic">one certain particular manner</hi>, and not <hi rend="italic">otherwise</hi>; why every thing was not placed the <hi rend="italic">quite contrary way</hi>, for instance, by changing <hi rend="italic">East</hi> into <hi rend="italic">West</hi>. But if Space is nothing else, but That <hi rend="italic">Order</hi> or <hi rend="italic">Relation</hi>; and is nothing at all without Bodies, but the Possibility of placing them; then those two States, the <hi rend="italic">one</hi> such as it now is, the <hi rend="italic">other</hi> supposed to be the quite contrary way, would not at all differ from one another. <hi rend="italic">Their Difference</hi> therefore is only to be found in our <hi rend="italic">Chimerical</hi> Supposition of the <hi rend="italic">Reality</hi> of Space in it self. But in truth the <hi rend="italic">one</hi> would exactly be the same thing as the <hi rend="italic">other</hi>, they being absolutely <hi rend="italic">indiscernible</hi>; and consequently there is no room to enquire after a Reason of the Preference of the one to the other.</p>
<p xml:id="par6"><fw type="catch" place="bottomRight">6. The</fw><pb xml:id="p61" n="61"/>6. The Case is the same with respect to <hi rend="italic">Time</hi>. Supposing any one should ask, why God did not create every thing <hi rend="italic">a Year sooner</hi>; and the same Person should infer from thence, that God has done something, concerning which 'tis <hi rend="italic">not possible</hi> there should be a <hi rend="italic">Reason</hi>, why he did it <hi rend="italic">so</hi>, and not <hi rend="italic">otherwise</hi>: The Answer is, That his Inference would be right, if <hi rend="italic">Time</hi> was any thing distinct from Things existing in Time. For it would be <hi rend="italic">impossible</hi> there should be any <hi rend="italic">Reason</hi>, why Things should be applied to such <hi rend="italic">particular Instants</hi>, rather than to <hi rend="italic">others</hi>, their Succession continuing the same. But then the same Argument proves, that <hi rend="italic">Instants</hi>, consider'd without the Things, are <hi rend="italic">nothing at all</hi>; and that they consist only in the successive <hi rend="italic">Order</hi> of Things: Which Order remaining the same, <hi rend="italic">one</hi> of the two States, <hi rend="italic">viz</hi>. that of a supposed Anticipation, would not at all differ, nor could be discerned from, the <hi rend="italic">other</hi> which Now is.</p>
<p xml:id="par7">7. It appears from what I have said, that my Axiom has not been well understood; and that the Author denies it, tho' he seems to grant it. <hi rend="italic">'Tis true</hi>, says he, <hi rend="italic">that there is nothing without a sufficient Reason why it Is, and why it is Thus, rather than otherwise:</hi> But he adds, that <hi rend="italic">This sufficient Reason</hi>, is often <hi rend="italic">the simple or mere Will of God:</hi> As, when it is asked <fw type="catch" place="bottomRight">why</fw><pb xml:id="p63" n="63"/>why Matter was not placed <hi rend="italic">otherwhere</hi> in Space; the same Situations of Bodies among themselves being preserved. But this is plainly maintaining, that God <hi rend="italic">Wills</hi> Something, without any <hi rend="italic">sufficient Reason</hi> for his Will: Against the Axiom, or the general Rule of whatever happens. This is falling back into the <hi rend="italic">loose Indifference</hi>, which I have confuted at large, and showed to be absolutely <hi rend="italic">chimerical</hi> even in Creatures, and contrary to the Wisdom of God, as if he could operate without acting by Reason.</p>
<p xml:id="par8">8. The Author objects against me, that if we don't admit this <hi rend="italic">simple and mere Will</hi>, we take away from God the Power of <hi rend="italic">Chusing</hi>, and bring in a Fatality. But the quite contrary is true. I maintain that God has the Power of <hi rend="italic">Chusing</hi>, since I ground That Power upon the <hi rend="italic">Reason of a Choice</hi> agreeable to his Wisdom. And 'tis not <hi rend="italic">This Fatality</hi>, (which is only the wisest Order of Providence) but a <hi rend="italic">Blind Fatality</hi> or <hi rend="italic">Necessity</hi>, void of All Wisdom and Choice, which we ought to avoid.</p>
<p xml:id="par9">9. I had observed, that by lessening the <hi rend="italic">Quantity of Matter</hi>, the Quantity of Objects, upon which God may exercise his Goodness, will be lessen'd. The Author answers, that instead of <hi rend="italic">Matter</hi>, there are other things in the Void Space, on which God may exercise his Goodness. Be it so: <fw type="catch" place="bottomRight">Tho'</fw><pb xml:id="p65" n="65"/>Tho' don't grant it; for I hold that every created Substance is attended with Matter. However, let it be so: I answer, that <hi rend="italic">More Matter</hi> was consistent with those same Things; and consequently the said Objects will be still lessened. The Instance of a greater Number of <hi rend="italic">Men</hi>, or <hi rend="italic">Animals</hi>, is not to the purpose; for They would <hi rend="italic">fill up</hi> Place, in Exclusion of other Things.</p>
<p xml:id="par10">10. It will be difficult to make me believe, that <hi rend="italic">Sensorium</hi> does not, in its <hi rend="italic">Usual</hi> Meaning, signify an <hi rend="italic">Organ</hi> of Sensation. See the Words of <hi rend="italic">Rudolphus Goclenius</hi>, in his <hi rend="italic">Dictionarium Philosophicum</hi>; <hi rend="italic">v</hi>. Sensiterium. <hi rend="italic">Barbarum Scholasticorum</hi>, says he, <hi rend="italic">qui interdum sunt Simiæ Græcorum</hi>. <hi rend="italic">Hi dicunt</hi> <foreign xml:lang="gre">Ἀισθήριων</foreign>. <hi rend="italic">Ex quo illi fecerunt</hi> Sensiterium <hi rend="italic">pro</hi> Sensorio, <hi rend="italic">id est, Organo Sensationis</hi>.</p>
<p xml:id="par11">11. The <hi rend="italic">mere Presence</hi> of a Substance, even an animated one, is not sufficient for Perception.  A blind Man, and even a Man whose Thoughts are wandering, does not <hi rend="italic">See</hi>. The Author must explain, how the Soul perceives what is <hi rend="italic">without</hi> it self.</p>
<p xml:id="par12">12. God is not present to Things by <hi rend="italic">Situation</hi>, but by <hi rend="italic">Essence</hi>: His Presence is manifested by his immediate <hi rend="italic">Operation</hi>. The Presence of the <hi rend="italic">Soul</hi>, is quite of another Nature. To say that it is diffused all over the Body, is to make it extended and <fw type="catch" place="bottomRight">divi-</fw><pb xml:id="p67" n="67"/>divisible. To say it is, the Whole of it, in every Part of the Body, is to make it divided from it self. To fix it to a <hi rend="italic">Point</hi>, to diffuse it all over <hi rend="italic">many Points</hi>, are only abusive Expressions, <hi rend="italic">Idola Tribûs</hi>.</p>
<p xml:id="par13">13. If <hi rend="italic">active Force</hi> should <hi rend="italic">diminish</hi> in the Universe, by the Natural Laws which God has established; so that there should be need for him to give a <hi rend="italic">new Impression</hi> in order to restore That Force, like an Artist's Mending the Imperfections of his Machine; the Disorder would not only be with respect to <hi rend="italic">Us</hi>, but also with respect to <hi rend="italic">God himself</hi>. He <hi rend="italic">might have</hi> prevented it, and taken better Measures to avoid such an Inconvenience: And therefore, indeed, he has <hi rend="italic">actually</hi> done it.</p>
<p xml:id="par14">14. When I said that God has provided Remedies before-hand against such Disorders, I did not say that God suffers Disorders to happen, and then finds Remedies for them; but that he has found a way before-hand to prevent any Disorders happening.</p>
<p xml:id="par15">15. The Author strives in vain to criticize my Expression, that God is <note n="*" place="marginRight"><hi rend="italic">See Appendix</hi>, N<hi rend="superscript">o</hi>. 1.</note> <hi rend="italic">Intelligentia Supramundana</hi>. To say that God is Above the World, is not denying that he is In the World.</p>
<p xml:id="par16">16. I never gave any Occasion to doubt, but that God's Conservation is an actual <fw type="catch" place="bottomRight">Preser-</fw><pb xml:id="p69" n="69"/>Preservation and Continuation of the Beings, Powers, Orders, Dispositions, and Motions of all Things: And I think I have perhaps explained it better than many Others. But, says the Author, <hi rend="italic">This is all that I contended for</hi>. To this I answer; <hi rend="italic">Your Humble Servant for That, Sir</hi>. Our Dispute consists in many other Things. The Question is, Whether God does not act in the most <hi rend="italic">regular</hi> and most <hi rend="italic">perfect</hi> Manner? Whether his Machine is liable to <hi rend="italic">Disorders</hi>, which he is obliged to mend by extraordinary Means? Whether the Will of God can act <hi rend="italic">without Reason?</hi> Whether Space is an <hi rend="italic">absolute Being?</hi> Also concerning the Nature of <hi rend="italic">Miracles</hi>; and many such Things, which make a wide Difference between us.</p>
<p xml:id="par17">17. <hi rend="italic">Divines</hi> will not grant the Author's Position against me; <hi rend="italic">viz</hi>. that there is no Difference, with respect to <hi rend="italic">God</hi>, between <hi rend="italic">Natural</hi> and <hi rend="italic">Supernatural</hi>: And it will be still less approved by most <hi rend="italic">Philosophers</hi>. There is a vast Difference between these two Things; but it plainly appears, it has not been duly consider'd. That which is <hi rend="italic">Supernatural</hi>, exceeds <hi rend="italic">all the Powers of Creatures</hi>. I shall give an Instance, which I have often made use of with good Success. If God would cause a Body to move free in the <hi rend="italic">Æther</hi> round about a certain fixed Centre, without any other Creature <fw type="catch" place="bottomRight">acting</fw><pb xml:id="p71" n="71"/>acting upon it: I say, it could not be done without a <hi rend="italic">Miracle</hi>; since it cannot be explained by the Nature of Bodies. For, a free Body does naturally recede from a Curve in the Tangent. And therefore I maintain, that <note n="*"><hi rend="italic">See Appendix</hi>, N<hi rend="superscript">o</hi>. 8. <hi rend="italic">and the</hi> Note <hi rend="italic">on Dr</hi>. Clarke'<hi rend="italic">s</hi> Fifth Reply, N<hi rend="superscript">o</hi>. 113.</note> the <hi rend="italic">Attraction</hi> of Bodies, properly so called, is a <hi rend="italic">Miraculous</hi> Thing, since it cannot be explained by the Nature of Bodies.</p>
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